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Jay Leno is opening up for the first time about the late night debacle (that forced Conan O’Brien out of NBC after losing his dream job as Tonight Show host) to Oprah Winfrey on her show airing tomorrow.

Oprah, a longtime pal of Jay’s, hits him with questions such as, “When they asked you to go back, did you ever think, ‘I’m taking away Conan’s dream?'” and “America has taken sides and a lot of people are not on your side. Did you ever ask yourself, well, ‘am I being selfish?'”

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She also asks him if he’s called Conan since the talk show host’s career was torn apart. “I haven’t talked to him since all this,” says Jay, reports E! Online.

So, what was The Chin’s reason for not reaching out? “It didn’t seem appropriate,” he says. “I don’t know, I think, let things cool down and maybe we’ll talk, you know?

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Oprah asks of Conan’s increasingly barbed monologues: “Were any of the things he said about you hurtful?”

“No, they were jokes,” he answered. “And that’s okay.”

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He added: “It’s what we do, you know. You can’t…It’s like being a fighter and saying, ‘When you got punched in the head, did it hurt?’ Well, yeah, but you’re a fighter, that’s what you do.”

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