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Kim Kardashian Stutters Through Awkward CNN Interview About Meeting With Trump
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Jun. 8 2018, Published 5:47 p.m. ET
During an interview with CNN's Van Jones, Kim Kardashian had a hard time explaining why she met with President Donald Trump to discuss prison reform. Read on to see the awkward interaction.
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Kim sat down with CNN to discuss her meeting with Trump, during which she convinced the president to commute Alice Johnson's prison sentence. Alice, 62, was sentenced to life in jail for a non-violent drug offense.
During her conversation with Van, Kim seemed to get tongue-tied whenever he asked her if she considered the fact that Trump might be using her as a "political pawn" in order to legitimize himself. The president might use her in a campaign video, for instance.
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After a long pause, Kim said, "I think Kanye West has already given him legitimacy in that way, so, I was working on this before, so, like, I don't think I would be used."
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She was referring to Kanye endorsing Trump on Twitter and wearing a "Make America Great Again" hat.
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Kim continued to defend her decision to turn to Trump to free Alice. "At the end of the day, he heard me out, we got the job done, so, I don't think, like, what could he really use me for?"
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