President Donald Trump is likely not having a pleasant day after hearing the news that his town hall last night — which aired at the same time as Joe Biden‘s — was roundly beaten in terms of viewership by his opponent.

According to Nielsen ratings — which gauge TV views only, not streaming platforms — Biden’s town hall on ABC averaged 13.9 million viewers. Meanwhile, the Trump town hall, which aired on NBC and was simulcast by two of NBC’s cable channels, MSNBC and CNBC, grossed about 13 million, with 10.6 coming from NBC proper.


Doing the math is easy: Biden managed to attract about a million more viewers and only airing from one channel.

Trump did not comment on the numbers as of yet, merely tweeting earlier in the day his thanks for the “very good reviews” of his town hall. If he does choose to contest the figures, he could likely lean on the fact that the Nielsen ratings do not include streaming numbers, which could add potential bulk to either viewership.

However, as CNN points out, trends seem to have been in Biden’s favor in this arena overall: When Trump participated in a town hall on ABC last month, the event averaged 3.8 million viewers. When Biden held a town hall on NBC, MSNBC and CNBC last week, it averaged quite a bit more viewership, to the tune of 6.7 million.

Regardless, the news must come as a surprise to the Trump camp, who boasted that the dueling town halls would pose no real competition. Trump campaign senior adviser Jason Miller even predicted before the events that “we’re gonna have a much bigger audience than Joe.”


Indeed, some outlets described the former vice president’s town hall, hosted by George Stephanopoulos in Philadelphia as being “dull” but that does not seem to have hurt his popularity.

The Trump event was held outdoors at the Pérez Art Museum in Miami, Fla., with social distancing practices in effect. The network clarified that Trump, who along with wife Melania Trump and son Barron Trump, tested positive for COVID-19 earlier this month, has produced current test results stating that he is not contagious. It was helmed by Today host Savannah Guthrie.

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